Monday, July 13, 2009

[cancercured] Oleander, Sutherlandia OPC, Vincent and Jim



Hey there Vincent,

Thanks for the great welcome you gave me some while back. Unfortunately, shortly thereafter I came down with quite the back injury and have been pretty much out of pocket (or just out of it at times) while rehabbing my dang back!

You are right, there is quite a bit of evidence of the effect of cardiac glycosides against cancer and oleander extract does contain cardiac glycosides, primarily oleandrin. However, cardiac glycosides are only a small piece of the synergistic puzzle that researchers are still trying to sort out when it comes to the anti-cancer and immune boosting actions of oleander, something that was dramatically demonstrated when an ethanolic extract of oleander was used against cancer with much less results than the aqueous extract (what happened was that the polar compounds, such as essential long chain polysacharrides, precipitated out during the ethanol extraction process).

When you get a chance, I suggest that you take a look at the oleander series of articles at:

http://www.tbyil.com

Which includes articles on oleander, a list of some of the compounds found in oleander (such as quercetin, ursolic acid, and linoleic acid, to name just three of many), articles about Sutherlandia OPC, which appears to be an even more potent combo, and references to various studies on oleander.

Their is certainly a toxicity issue when it comes to the raw oleander plant. However, the toxins are essentially eliminated by the extraction process of lengthy boiling and straining and the cardiac glycoside content in a dose of oleander is only about 1/40th that of a typical dose of digoxin/digitalis.

If you decide to make your own, their are links to two articles about that also on the above page. Just be careful that you are sure that any plant you choose has not been sprayed with pesticides. One sure way to tell if the most common pesticide, malathion, has been used is if you touch it to your lips and feel a tingling sensation.

Hopefully, as my back continues to improve I will be able to be a bit more frequent contributor. I am soooo far behind

And Jim, I hate to hear you are having problems. Never say never my friend! If you are having problem with your weight or wasting (cachexia), some suggestions are:

N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC), can help prevent cachexia and is considered an essential complimentary supplement to oleander in general by Marc Swanepoel (the naturopathic PhD who devised Sutherlandia OPC). Other items that may may help combat cachexia are coconut oil and especially Garden of Life's Primal Defense, a natural blend of 12 species of probiotics and Homeostatic Soil Organisms (HSOs). It helps support normal gastrointestinal balance of good and potentially harmful bacteria, and maximizes the benefits of a healthy diet by supporting normal absorption and assimilation of nutrients in the gut.

All the best,

Tony

--- In cancercured@yahoogroups.com, VGammill <vgammill@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike,
>
> I haven't seen a lot of support for sutherlandia, but there is
> considerable evidence for the cardiac glycosides such as the extracts
> of oleander:
> http://molinterv.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/8/1/36
>
> Oleander does have certain toxicity issues, but in California it
> grows everywhere. This is a big plus for anyone who wants to
> inexpensively take charge of their own treatment.
>
> Vincent
>
> At 10:58 PM 7/12/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Vincent, that Sutherlandia site you went to is for the fruitescens
> >herb. It is not the site for Sutherlandia OPC. SOPC is the
> >combination of S. fruitescens and Nerium oleander. This is the one
> >that is intended for cancer.
> >
> >Mike
>

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